Asterisk to Alcatel via PRI: analog exts work - digital do N

[mirceahuh]

One more question: do you have ARS on Alcatel? If you do, I think it is more easy to set this all up.

[vieri]

Yes, I seem to have ARS, Automatic Route Selection.

In the Prefix Meanings I found:
ARS Prof.Trg Grp Seizure
ARS Prof.Trg Grp Seiz.with overlap
ARS Personal Trk Grp
ARS Personal Trk Grp with overlap.
ARS Modem TG With Overlapping
Ars Server

And I also found this:

┌─Select an object──────────────┐
│ │
│ Prefix Plan │
│ Suffix Plan │
│ Dialing Plan │
│ PIN (Personal Ident.No.) │
│ Private Call Profile │
│ External Dialing Plan │
│ Network Routing Table │
│ -> Automatic Route Selection │
│ Filtered Called Number │
│ ATM Address List │
│ │
└───────────────────────────────┘

┌─Select an object─────────────┐
│ │
│ -> ARS Route list │
│ ARS Schedule │
│ ARS Calendar │
│ Dialing Command Table │
│ Code Table Authorization │
│ │
└──────────────────────────────┘

[mirceahuh]

No. To see if you have ars, you should go to spadmin command. Over there, you should select 2 - Display active file

Then you should have someware ARS = ......

Tell me what do you have there.

[vieri]

The only thing I see related to ARS is:

467-ARS : p1: 9999

[mirceahuh]

Ok. This means that you have ars license.

If you want you can use ars for calls from bosh to asterisk via alcatel.

For this, you have to delete 87 and create it again with prefix meaning: ARS Prof. Trg Grp Seizure; Discriminator number: 0

Go to Translator/Automatic Route Selection and create ARS Route list 1 (if it is not created already. If it is, create one with a free number: 2 or 3 ... etc). Then create in that route ARS Route 1 to go out via trunk group 4 (asterisk) (only put 4 in Trunk group parameter of the route) and Quality you have to put Speech and Fax. Of course you have to create a time based route list to go out to route 1.

Then go to Translator/External Numbering Scheme/Numbering discriminator and in all rules you have to put, at ARS Route List Number: 1 (or 2 or 3 etc, the ARS Route List you created).

With this modifications, you will use the settings made before for local phones (one conected to alcatel) and ARS for calls from bosh.

Then dial 87xxxxxxx..... from a Bosh phone.

It would be good to make a trace too.

By the way, to reinitialize the mtracer you have to use dhs3_init -R MTRACER, not DHS3_init (my apologise).

Regards,
Mircea

[vieri]

For this, you have to delete 87 and create it again with prefix meaning: ARS Prof. Trg Grp Seizure; Discriminator number: 0

Go to Translator/Automatic Route Selection and create ARS Route list 1 (if it is not created already. If it is, create one with a free number: 2 or 3 ... etc).

OK, I did that and here's the result:

┌─Create: Prefix Plan─────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ │
│ Node Number (reserved) : 1 │
│ Instance (reserved) : 1 │
│ Number : 87 │
│ │
│ Prefix Meaning + ARS Prof.Trg Grp Seizure │
│ │
└─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

┌─Create: ARS Route list─────────────────────────────────┐
│ │
│ Node Number (reserved) : 1 │
│ Instance (reserved) : 1 │
│ Instance (reserved) : 1 │
│ ARS Route list : 1 │
│ │
│ Name : ASTERISK │
│ │
└────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

Then create in that route ARS Route 1 to go out via trunk group 4 (asterisk) (only put 4 in Trunk group parameter of the route) and Quality you have to put Speech and Fax. Of course you have to create a time based route list to go out to route 1.

I'm lost here (and am afraid of making changes without having an idea of what I'm doing). I don't know where to specify Asterisk's trunk group 4 in Alcatel's ARS.
Should I add a new ARS Schedule?

┌─Select an object─────────────┐
│ │
│ ARS Route list │
│ -> ARS Schedule │
│ ARS Calendar │
│ Dialing Command Table │
│ Code Table Authorization │
│ │
└──────────────────────────────┘

Then go to Translator/External Numbering Scheme/Numbering discriminator and in all rules you have to put, at ARS Route List Number: 1 (or 2 or 3 etc, the ARS Route List you created).

Here's what I see:

┌─Select an object──────────────────────┐
│ │
│ -> Dialing (Numbering) Discriminator │
│ Dialing Plan Description │
│ DID number translator │
│ Default DID num. translator │
│ Node Access Prefix │
│ Network Access Prefix │
│ Ext.Callback Translation │
│ │
└───────────────────────────────────────┘

┌─[ 2 ] Instances: Dialing (Numbering) Discriminator─┐
│ │
│ -> 0 │
│ 1 │
│ │
└────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

┌─Consult/Modify: Dialing (Numbering) Discriminator────────────────────────────┐
│ │
│ Node Number (reserved) : 1 │
│ Instance (reserved) : 1 │
│ Instance (reserved) : 1 │
│ Discriminator No. : 0 │
│ │
│ Name : public │
│ │
└──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

┌─Consult/Modify: Dialing (Numbering) Discriminator────────────────────────────┐
│ │
│ Node Number (reserved) : 1 │
│ Instance (reserved) : 1 │
│ Instance (reserved) : 1 │
│ Discriminator No. : 1 │
│ │
│ Name : private │
│ │
└──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

Because I skipped the previous step maybe I'm not seeing what I should. Anyway, there are currently two Numbering Discriminators (0, 1) but I don't know where to specify the ARS Route List Number 1.

I feel very inexperienced and am sorry to bother you with these details. Is there a quick guide I can read on the Internet regarding Alcatel's ARS?

[mirceahuh]

After you created ARS Route list 1, you must Go down hierarchy and you will have ARS Route and Time based route list. First go to ARS Route and Create. You should have:

ARS Route list: 1
Route: 1

Name: what you want.....
Trunk Group: 4

Quality: Press Add twice and then go to Quality and select Fax. This way, you added Speech and Fax.

After this, confirm with Control+V or F1

Then go back to Time based route list, and Create. Here you must have:

ARS Route list: 1

Then go to Add and press enter. It is enough, you can save with Control+V or F1.

This way you created ARS route to Asterisk.

Then go in Translator/External Numbering Scheme/Numbering Discriminator/Go down hierarchy
Consult-Modify and select All instances and validate (Control+V or F1)

Here you must have all call prefixes you created (when we said we will create prefixes for all dialing possibilities, to avoid waiting for # to send the number, if you remember. We had to put there Number of Digits.....). Here you must go to every prefix and created and put in ARS Route List Number: 1

With this, it should be finished. If you want and it is possible, I can login to alcatel system and configure all this (if it is available from internet). For this, we should comunicate by PM.

Regards,
Mircea.

PS: You don't bother me at all. Anyway, if you want you can find useful documentation on this forum, which you can download. Here it is the link:

Alcatel Documentation

You should download R5.1 system documentation. It is pretty much as your release (4.2).

You have also here the information about database management, with all the parameters explained:

Database Management

[vieri]

I understand now. Thanks for your guidance.
Unfortunately I didn't do those changes yet because I never tried the "number discriminator" so as to avoid the timeout or the # pressed. I didn't do it because I realized that someone had already set a discriminator for, say, 06:

┌─Consult/Modify: Discriminator Rule───────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ │
│ Node Number (reserved) : 1 │
│ Instance (reserved) : 1 │
│ Instance (reserved) : 1 │
│ Discriminator No. : 0 │
│ Call Number : 06 │
│ │
│ Dialing Area : 1 │
│ ARS Route List Number : 0 │
│ Schedule Number : -1 │
│ Number of Digits : 10 │
│ │
└──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

And I don't want to touch that until I know what it's there for.
It's probably because when Bosch/alcatel extensions dial a cell phone which starts with 6 here, then it should be routed someway.
So I might use 006, etc. (extra 0), which doesn't appear in the list.

[mirceahuh]

Do you mean you haven't created this numbers you said here?

That's a great solution.
I think I will define nine discriminators of length 10: 01 to 09 for "standard" national calls which are always 9 digits long. Some special numbers are short (eg. 1414) and they would match discriminator 01 so these would have to timeout but I don't mind because they are not commonly used.

For international calls I won't even bother defining a tenth discriminator such as 00 because the number's length is variable.

Multumesc!

If not, you can use discriminator 2. Just change in prefix 87, Discriminator: 2

In entities/Go Down hierarchy/discriminator selector/Consult-Modify
In Discriminator 02: put 2

After this create in Translator/External Numbering Scheme/Numbering Discriminator/Create

Discriminator: 2
Name: any name

Then Go down hierarchy to Discriminator Rule

Here, Create all the numbers as said before:

Discriminator Nr.: 2
Call number: 01 to 09 (create one by one)

Numbering Area: 1
ARS Route List Number: 1
Schedule number: -1
Number of Digits: 10


This is all you have to do.

[vieri]

Do you mean you haven't created this numbers you said here?

No, I didn't because of the doubts I had in the previous post.

If not, you can use discriminator 2. Just change in prefix 87, Discriminator: 2

Thanks, I will try that on Monday. I hope I can read some documentation during this weekend.