ALCATEL OMNI PCX newbie has a few quetions

bace · Post by **bace** » 02 Dec 2004 09:41

Hello forum for the 1st time

In my new company I have ALCATEL OMNI PCX Office and I am complete newbie considering alcatel centrals .... As I understood it is a Linux based machine. It has voice and network switching. I have few questions for the very begining :
1.can I get a login promt on the linux machine (if so do I login with the same user as from the application (PM5 R310) and if I get the prompt what can I do from the command line?

2.how to get a dump file for the call accounting, in raw format so that I can use that file for further proccessing?

the central has 8 digital and 8 analog extensions and a 16 port switch + some licenses for firewall e-mail server file server ....

Sorry If these questions are stupid but I am begginer only

P.S. I have big experience with UNIX/Linux systems can this be of help

thank you all

Post by **frank** » 02 Dec 2004 10:11

hi..

i don t work on OmniPCX office, but I would assume that it works the same as a regular 4400...

To login to the machine, just telnet to its main ip address

To get a dump (from T1s, do a t3

and if I am wrong, somebody else will give you a hand -hopefully-

ciao

bace · Post by **bace** » 02 Dec 2004 10:29

Hi,
thanks for the fast response,

I cannot telnet to the main IP address

C:\>telnet 192.168.92.246
Connecting To 192.168.92.246...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23
: Connect failed

the port scaner does not give me any output (i guess the central is covered good in the manner of security)

what are: "T1s, do a t3 " ? sorry for the begginer questions

BTW : where do I get some good books about these centrals.
I have few pdfs but somehow they are more sales oriented than really helpfull and technical.
Is this the way that alcatel handles the help files and manuals i.e. do I have to go to some courses or similar?

thanks again

Post by **frank** » 02 Dec 2004 11:15

Hello..

Well.. can you try to ping the alcatel box ?
If not, then I think this would be a network security rule, and you would have to go and talk with you sysadmin...

for the documentations, you would have to go to class...

and sorry if i don t give more informations, but who tells me that you are not a student in a university trying to hack into one of those nice boxes ?

goldy · Post by **goldy** » 02 Dec 2004 15:35

I'm no expert on these ones, but of my colleauges is, this is what i know in answer.

No login is available (that we know of), so no CLI opttions available

It is linux, but no access to the os i granted from Alcatel
For the Call Accounting, i would guess you need to hook it up to a serial connection, then capture to terminal program. Don't know the config options for the Call Acct though. PM5 is the only interface available for these little beasts

bace · Post by **bace** » 03 Dec 2004 03:53

Hi,

I can ping the central but I cannot scan it. I can not ask my sysadmin becouse I am in charge of system administration for the company

. What information can I provide as a proove that I am not a student hacker

?

Are some of those books available at e-mule or similar. I am planing to go to some of the courses but I wouldnot like to start from scratch on the classess but be prepared. My experience tells me that it is better to be at least 20% "in the product" before taking a course.

thanks to you all

Alex

goldy · Post by **goldy** » 03 Dec 2004 06:08

Hello there,

I don't think you're a hacker, i don't work on the PCX Ofifice at all, I only know what I hear from my colleagues.

There is no known may to manage the PCX Office other than PM5. My colleague has tried tracing the IP stack & port scanned it as well, as you have.

I have also found out, the call accounting is presented on a V110 TA as the serial connection.

You are also right, it is better to be 20% than not at all.

I do not have any docs on this system to help you, most of us here mainly work with the PCX Enterprise.

Hope this helps

xerces · Post by **xerces** » 26 May 2005 03:50

I'm in a similar position to you bace. I am the sysadmin for a small company and we swapped our old Lucent PBX and Memovox for an Alcatel OmniPCX Office, because they were too old, surplus to requirements and nobody was left who knew how to configure them. (We had the manuals, but they were about 5 feet thick). We don't use the builtin switch/firewall features at all, only the telephony.

So now we have Alcatel. It does a good job and configuring it with PM5 is fairly easy. I'm also comfortable in unix and would love to get inside, but sadly the information that came with the system is minimal and the support non-existant.

Luckily I the engineer that installed it gave me a copy of his engineer CD. Most of it is useless, but one file 'expert manual R21.pdf' is useful. It doesn't go into internals but it describes how to achieve most configuration using PM5 and directly on the handsets.

I've not found telnet or ssh access and it does appear to be blocking port scans quite well. PM5 uses tcp ftp to exchange data but it's using a custom ftp server running on port 30021 (you'll see this with a sniffer when you log into PM5), after authentication 30021 is used for the commands and 30020 for data so you won't get in with a typical ftp client.

The manual doesn't mention it, but I'm sure there's some way in through the serial port to handle cases when the configuration get screwed and needs to be reset. If you find it let me know!

Edit: Forgot to mention, there is also a webserver running on port 81. If I authenticate with installer : <my installer pw> then I get a small page with the options "System Start", "Datasaving", and "Swap Serial". I've not tried the first one, second one looks tantalizingly full of info but doesn't seem to do anything, and the last one seems most useful. It suggests that the serial port can be used for two functions (a) as an output for console messages and (b) a means to establish a PPP session (the default). I've not tried this also because I really don't have the time to play, but this looks like a good way in if you can't find a port.

Post by **frank** » 30 May 2005 01:46

Ok.

I got my SE certification on 6.x release, and I saw an Office box.
I did not play with it, but when you talked about that, I was not sure what it was about. You should have a board called CS with a config port (which might be represented by a little dot '.' on the top right I think), right ? If this is the case, you should plug a computer in here, using a special cable, of course

Post by **frank** » 10 Oct 2005 18:41

never mind. I am in the OXO training now, and it has nothing to do with what i though it was... sorry for the bad answers i gave..