Upgrading from CPU6 to Appliance Server. How to migrate MAO?

[fys]

Hi guys. I have a situation.

I have a site that is running on a ACT-28 with Redundancy CPU6. This site will upgrade to Appliance Server with Redundancy very soon. With this upgrade, the two CPU6 will be replaced with INTIPBs which will be connected to the LAN and hence communicating with the Appliance Servers.

My question is, how do I migrate the database from the CPU6 to Appliance Server?
When I create empty database and load in the new OPS, I will see the two Appliance Servers in Shelf 0(slot 6 & 10) and the Crystal Shelf in Shelf 1(INTIPB in slot 6 & 20).
But when I restore the MAO from the CPU6 and restore the new OPS, I would see slot 6 and 20 to be IN SERVICE and labelled as CPU6. This is obviously not right.

BTW, the site is running Release 8.0.

I'm trying to avoid from recreating the whole database again as it would be a very hectic option.

I would highly appreciate if anyone can give me some tips on how to migrate over correctly.

Thanx.

Regards,
FYS

[travis1]

Its actually ( for alcatel ) quite easy.

Do a backup of your databse on your CPU6's
Resote that database on your appliance servers. You will see that it will perform a shelf move automatically and move all of your shelf 0 to a next available, free shelf ie. in the below case to shelf 3.

Current config
Shelf 0 - current CPU's etc...
Shelf 1
Shelf 2

New Config.

Shelf 0 - - changed to show the 2 appliance servers.
Shelf 1
Shelf 2
Shelf 3 - new shelf that will represent the old shelf 0.

So in this case your INTIPB's will be in 3-20 and 3-6.

The best part about this is that the move is done automatically. And dont worry about the OPS - it will moan about the new shelf 3 - but ignore that.

Also things to look out for
Your sync priority's on your PRA's/NPRAE's - should be over 200 now.
the DIP swithes on the INTIPB boards... sometimes come in "test" mode..watch that.

hope that helps.

[oldboy]

BUT, you will still need to move the extns, the easiest way is once you restore you backup dont load the OPS!!!! create the new shelf manually, do a MOVE on the extn boards, this will move the users (saves doing it manually), any trunk boards, GPA will need to be created manually. Then load the OPS and all should be OK if you have done it right...

Send me the database : i will do it for a small fee..... we do this often and it is easy...

[travis1]

oldboy - your wrong.

It will move the boards - extens and all equipment AUOTMATICALLY!

Shame on your for enticing money in a free forum

[knightr1der]

oldboy - your wrong.

It will move the boards - extens and all equipment AUOTMATICALLY!

Shame on your for enticing money in a free forum

That's a double whipping for oldboy

[oldboy]

Knight thatnks i would like that...

Travis i will have to disagree but thats life... I completed one of these last week and in fact the boards in fact moved but extn and trunk data not anyway ....

[travis1]

Fair enough - I can agree to disagree.

Although - When a board move is done ( wether it is automatic by OXE or manually using swinst ) all locations attached to that board will go with it. trunks, extensions..etc..

If I may suggest ( without trying to be insultive ) that you may be doing your transitions to appliance servers the hard way.. Let the OXE do the work.

[cavagnaro]

Knight thatnks i would like that...

wow that was a direct one for knight! go tigger!

About asking for a fee well if the user can't solve the problem we can ask to do the job for them, however the fact that the question raised on the forum doesn't mean we will solve it for free... at least I wouldn't...

[fys]

Hi Guys,
Thanx for your response. Highly appreciate it.

travis1 / oldboy,
I'm interested in the methods you guys mentioned. Of course ideally I would want the OXE to migrate everything from shelf 0 to shelf 1 for me. And of course I have tried your suggested methods too the very first time. But I dont see any evidence of information transfers from shelf 0 to 1. But maybe I could have been wrong in my procedures. Below are my steps..

1 remove old database.
2 create new empty database.
3 reboot.
4 enter swinst and restore old database (everything from item 1 to 11 I have backup from CPU6).
5 Restore new OPS (all 4 files. hw,swk, zip, mao).
6 Reboot.

And once finished booting, below is wat I see from the configs:

Cristal 0 :

+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Cr | cpl| cpl type | hw type | cpl state | coupler ID |
|----|----|------------|-----------|--------------|-----------------|
| 0 | 0 | ATR2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 1 | eZ32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 2 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 3 | eZ32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 4 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 5 | eZ32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 6 | CPU6|---------- | IN SERVICE | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 8 | NDDI2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 9 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 10 | eZ32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 11 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 12 | eZ32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 14 | NDDI2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 15 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 16 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 17 | NPRAE|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 19 | NDDI2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 20 | CPU6|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 22 | ATR2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 23 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 24 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 25 | GPA2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 26 | INTIPA| INT-IP | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 27 | NDDI2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+


> Reference rack number: 1


Cristal 1 :

+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Cr | cpl| cpl type | hw type | cpl state | coupler ID |
|----|----|------------|-----------|--------------|-----------------|
| 1 | 0 | NDDI2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 2 | ATR2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 3 | eZ32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 4 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 5 | eZ32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 6 | INTIPB| INT-IP | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 8 | eZ32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 9 | ATR2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 10 | eZ32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 11 | NDDI2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 14 | GPA2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 15 | NPRAE|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 16 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 17 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 19 | NDDI2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 20 | INTIPB| INT-IP | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 22 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 24 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 25 | INTIPA| INT-IP | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 26 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 1 | 27 | eUA32|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+


Cristal 3 :

+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Cr | cpl| cpl type | hw type | cpl state | coupler ID |
|----|----|------------|-----------|--------------|-----------------|
| 3 | 0 | GD|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 3 | 2 | UAI 16|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 3 | 3 | SLI 16(Z)|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 3 | 4 | SLI 16(Z)|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 3 | 5 | SLI 16(Z)|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 3 | 6 | PRA T2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 3 | 7 | SLI 16(Z)|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 3 | 8 | UNKNOWN|---------- |ONLY OPS FILE | BAD PCMS CODE |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+


Cristal 4 :

+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Cr | cpl| cpl type | hw type | cpl state | coupler ID |
|----|----|------------|-----------|--------------|-----------------|
| 4 | 0 | GD|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 4 | 2 | UAI 16|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 4 | 3 | SLI 16(Z)|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 4 | 4 | SLI 16(Z)|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 4 | 5 | SLI 16(Z)|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 4 | 6 | PRA T2|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 4 | 7 | SLI 16(Z)|---------- | REG NOT INIT | BAD PCMS CODE |
| 4 | 8 | UNKNOWN|---------- |ONLY OPS FILE | BAD PCMS CODE |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+


Cristal 19 :

+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Cr | cpl| cpl type | hw type | cpl state | coupler ID |
|----|----|------------|-----------|--------------|-----------------|
| 19 | 0 | FICTIF| | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 19 | 1 | INTIPA| | IN SERVICE | NO PCMS CODE |
| 19 | 2 | INTIPA| | OUT OF SERV | NO PCMS CODE |
| 19 | 3 | Z_FICTIF| | IN SERVICE | NO PCMS CODE |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+

Everything u see in Cristal 0 is the actual setup. The rest is all created by the OPS. U notice the CPU6 is IN SERVICE eventhough I'm doing this on the AS.
FYI, the actual board locations does not follow the Actis designated slots previously. So the setup in Cristal 1 shows what is designated for Cristal 0 previously.

oldboy, I tried MOVE the boards like you mentioned. I am only successful in moving the extension boards. The trunk boards and GPA and ATR2 boards cant be moved. The CPU6 I cant change to App Server too as there is no such thing in the option type.

Is there anything I've done wrong? Any other suggestions that I can try? I have not done such migrations of different platforms before.

Thanx.

Regards,
FYS

[travis1]

fys,

On your appliance server you should see something like;

Cristal 0 :

+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Cr | cpl| cpl type | hw type | cpl state | coupler ID |
|----|----|------------|-----------|--------------|-----------------|
| 0 | 6 | App. Server|---------- | REG NOT INIT | NO PCMS CODE |
| 0 | 10 | App. Server|---------- | IN SERVICE | NO PCMS CODE |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+

At this point you grab you backup off your old CPU6's - place it into usr4/BACKUP/IMMED on your new appliance servers, and restore on the following order.

1st mao, voiceguides and accounting
2nd linux, site specific.

when you restore the backup you will see that it automatically performs a shelf move ( as it conflicts with the current shelf config.)

set autostart and REBOOT

After this - restore the OPS...It will complain with errors like...

Warning board 3-14: should be deleted
Warning board 3-15: should be deleted
Warning board 3-16: should be deleted
Warning board 3-17: should be deleted
Warning board 3-18: should be deleted
Warning board 3-19: should be deleted

but this is because the boards are not in the OPS but are in the database.

this was how I did my last one ( it was R7.1 ).

Let me know how you go.

Trav